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Acceptance of Vatican II is Prerequisite for 'Recognition' by Conciliar Clergy - Stone - 04-18-2021 Before quoting Conciliar clergy themselves, a brief reminder: Archbishop Lefebvre - On Vatican II
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Archbishop Di Noia Admits: The Goal is to Convert SSPX to Conciliar Thinking
“This is a new concept which we know the Traditionalists will not be able to accept immediately. Convincing them will take time, and in this respect we will have to be patient.” – Archbishop Joseph Augustine Di Noia, newly-appointed Vice-Prefect of the Vatican’s Ecclesia Dei
By John Vennari CFN| August 2012 In 1946, Father Garrigou-Lagrange warned in his landmark article against the modernist New Theology, “Those who have attempted to attend the classes of the masters of modernist thought in order to convert them have allowed themselves to be converted by them.” It is clear the same ruse is being applied to the Society of St. Pius X. Vatican Insider posted a July 2 interview with Joseph Augustine Di Noia, newly-appointed Vice-Prefect of the Vatican’s Ecclesia Dei. Though the interview deserves a much fuller treatment, we will spotlight for now Archbishop Di Noia’s remarkable comments about the Society of St. Pius X and modern Judaism. He says, “After three years of dialogue [the doctrinal discussions] we still need to understand what the SSPX position is on the Jewish Community and Judaism. ” After three years the Vatican still does not understand what is the SSPX’s position on these points? This should be no great mystery. The SSPX position is nothing more than the traditional teaching of the Catholic Church throughout the ages, that all non-Catholics, Jews included, must convert to the Catholic Church for salvation. There is no salvation outside the Church. The SSPX position is what the Church has always taught: the Old Covenant is superseded and made obsolete by the New. Those who are still members of non-Catholic societies, such as Judaism or Protestantism, can only be saved by leaving their false positions and joining the one true Church that Christ established. This should not be a difficult concept for a Catholic. The position of the Society of St. Pius X can also be summarized in Pius XI’s loving prayer for the conversion of the Jews contained in the Consecration of the Human Race to the Sacred Heart of Jesus, which Pius wished to be recited in every Catholic Church on the Feast of Christ the King: “Turn Thine eyes of mercy towards the children of that race, once Thy chosen people: of old they called down upon themselves the Blood of the Savior; may It now descend upon them, a laver of redemption and of life.” Archbishop Di Noia then grants us a great favor He openly admits something we have long surmised: that the purpose of the Vatican’s discussions with the SSPX, and its work for so-called “regularization,” is to convert the SSPX to Conciliar thinking. Here is the key section of the interview. Archbishop Di Noia says: Quote:“The Church’s deep commitment to reconciliation with the Jewish People is personified today by Benedict XVI. The Ecumenical Council wrought a fundamental change. Then John Paul II, above all others, brought home Paul’s message that Judaism and Jews have a unique place in salvation history. Nobody can deny that Karol Wojtyla’s Pontificate marked a major shift in the theological understanding of Judaism within the Catholic Church.” First of all, it is not accurate to invoke Saint Paul in this new enterprise, for it is Saint Paul who declares explicitly that Our Lord’s New Covenant “has made obsolete the former one,” that is, made obsolete the old Judaic Covenant. (Heb. 8:13) No Pope has the authority to reject this Scriptural truth, as the Word of God is infallible, and the Church has always interpreted this verse accordingly. The new approach mentioned by Archbishop Di Noia is a case of twisting the words of Saint Paul to fit the new ecumenical orientation. This is a old tactic of ecumenists, but too much to detail at the moment. Most important, however, are the terms “fundamental change” and “major shift”. Di Noia admits that Vatican II’s approach, and the subsequent orientation of Popes John Paul II and Benedict XVI are a change, a shift. We are not receiving the Catholic Faith from them “in the same meaning and in the same explanation” as is commanded by Vatican I and the Oath Against Modernism, but a major shift, a change. Once again, we see proof that Vatican II is a rupture with the past, which cannot realistically be accepted by means of a “hermeneutic of continuity.” Here, there is no continuity. Archbishop di Noia then delivers the payload: Quote:“Vatican II repudiated anti-Semitism and presented a positive picture of Judaism. John Paul II took us further in recognizing the significance of the Jewish People for Christianity itself. This is a new concept which we know the Traditionalists will not be able to accept immediately. Convincing them will take time, and in this respect we will have to be patient.” There you have it. Traditional Catholics are expected to effectively abandon the perennial truths of the Catholic Faith regarding the absolute necessity for non-Catholics – Jews included – to leave their religious affiliations and convert to Christ’s one true Church. Again, we see no “hermeneutic of continuity” here, but a “new concept” This is neo-Modernisn in action, something no Catholic is bound to accept. In fact, our first duty is to resist. And yes, they will embark on a program of “convincing us” of these modernist tenets, and are content to take the long period of time such convincing will require. How much more explicit need he be? Today’s Vatican would prefer we effectively discard the infallible decree of the Council of Florence which teaches: Quote:“The Most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews, heretics, and schismatics can ever be partakers of eternal life, but that they are to go into the eternal fire ‘which was prepared for the devil and his angels,’ (Mt. 25:41) unless before death they are joined with her; and that so important is the unity of this Ecclesiastical Body, that only those remaining within this unity can profit from the sacraments of the Church unto salvation, and that they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, almsdeeds, and other works of Christian piety and duties of a Christian soldier. No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved unless they abide within the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church.” Today’s Church leaders, in the name of Vatican II novelties, would prefer we no longer quote Our Lord Himself who said to the Jews of his day, “If you do not believe that I am He [the Messiah], you will die in your sins.” (John 8:24); or that we quote His words to the Jews, “You search the Scripture because in them you think you have life everlasting. And it is they that bear witness to Me, yet you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life.” (John 5:39-40). Today’s post-Concliar Vatican is no doubt embarrassed by Saint John who, faithful to Our Lord’s teaching, says likewise, “Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ. He is Antichrist who denies the Father and the Son.” (1 John 2: 22) For what is Pope John Paul’s major contribution to Jewish Catholic relations, but the promotion of the new belief that Jews have their own unique Covenant with God and need not convert to the Catholic Church for salvation. Sergio Itzhak Minerbi, Israel’s former Ambassador to the Ivory Coast, Belgium, praised John Paul’s new approach to Judaism: “For centuries, the Church has claimed to be the ‘true Israel’, thus substituting the Jewish religion. It is therefore important that, in a meeting with the Jewish community in Mainz on 17 November 1980, the Pope announced his respect for ‘the people of God, of the Old Covenant, which has never been revoked by God’.” Likewise Abraham Foxman from the Jewish Anti-Defamation League, no friend of the Catholic Church, celebrated Pope John Paul II as the man who “rejected the destructive concept of supersessionism,” that is, rejected the Catholic truth that the New Covenant of Jesus Christ superseded and made obsolete the Old Judaic Covenant. And what is Pope Benedict’s novel approach to the Jewish people, but the claim that Jews and Catholics worship the same God, and that Jews and Catholics have a “common mission” to be a witness to God in the world, with no mention of the need for the Jews to convert. At the Rome synagogue in 2010, Pope Benedict said, “Christians and Jews share to a great extent a common spiritual patrimony, they pray to the same Lord, they have the same roots, and yet they often remain unknown to each other. It is our duty, in response to God’s call, to strive to keep open the space for dialogue, for reciprocal respect, for growth in friendship, for a common witness in the face of the challenges of our time, which invite us to cooperate for the good of humanity in this world created by God, the Omnipotent and Merciful.” Yet we know that Jews and Christians do not worship the same God. Jews, alas, reject Jesus Christ as Lord and Messiah. It is Saint John, the Apostle of Love, who writes: “He who honereth not the Son, honereth not the Father, who hath sent Him” (John 5:23). Finally, the new approach to be a “common witness” to God along with Jews implicitly demands we no longer speak of the need for their conversion to Christ’s one true Church for salvation. It effectively tells Jews they have the moral freedom to live their lives as if Jesus Christ were a fraud and imposter. Yet it is this new approach that Archbishop Di Noia openly admits that traditional Catholics are expected to accept. Clearly, traditional Catholics will be ‘worked on’ to be persuaded of this new orientation. We thank Archbishop Di Noia for saying openly what many of us have long surmised: The Vatican’s goal in Rome/SSPX dialogue is to convert traditional Catholics to Conciliar thinking. We repeat again Archbishop Di Noia’s key phrase: “This is a new concept which we know the Traditionalists will not be able to accept immediately. Convincing them will take time, and in this respect we will have to be patient.” To be forewarned is to be forearmed. [Emphasis mine.] RE: Acceptance of Vatican II is Prerequisite for 'Acceptance' by Conciliar Clergy - Stone - 04-18-2021 New Vatican doctrine chief stresses need for SSPX to accept Vatican II
EWTN News as republished on CFN | April 6, 2012 The new prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith has re-stated that the acceptance of the Second Vatican Council is a prerequisite for the traditionalist Society of St. Pius X to rejoin the Church. [note from JV: the SSPX never left the Church, but that is another discussion...] “One can only be Catholic if one fully recognizes the faith of the Church. This includes the Second Vatican Council, which is a particularly important teaching,” Bishop Gerhard Ludwig Muller said to Vatican Radio July 4 in his first and only interview since taking up his new post. “It is therefore important to overcome internal blockages – groups on the fringes – and that one simply has to trust our Holy Father Benedict XVI and all those that who surround him,” he remarked. In September 2011 Bishop Muller’s predecessor, American Cardinal William J. Levada, presented the Society with a “doctrinal preamble” setting out what they would have to agree with in order to heal its 24-year rift with Rome. Although the document was never made public, it is widely thought to include the acceptance of the Second Vatican Council as a key condition. Discussions between both sides are still ongoing. Bishop Muller, 64, was appointed to his new post July 2, having previously been Bishop of Regensburg in Germany for 10 years. “I feel like a first-grader in school. A lot of things are new for me,” he admitted, even though he was already familiar with the congregation’s work, having been a member for five years. “Despite that,” he added, “it is a big change from being a local bishop to a bishop at the Roman Curia.” The office he now holds within the Curia puts him in charge of one of the oldest and most significant Vatican departments. The congregation has its roots in the 16th century counter-Reformation when it went by the grand title of the Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Roman and Universal Inquisition. In 1908 it was restyled the Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Holy Office. It was renamed again with its present title in 1965 by Pope Paul VI. Bishop Muller said the primary job of his new department is “promoting the Catholic faith” in “a positive way,” since “faith is something that heals.” “A lot of Catholics do not know, unfortunately, what is really the content of our faith and so let themselves maybe also go against the Church, while they believe in something which is false,” he said. A personal friend of Pope Benedict XVI, the two men have a background in academia, with Bishop Muller specializing in dogmatic theology. He also has a long track record in promoting ecumenical relations particularly with the Russian Orthodox Church and Lutherans. “Ecumenical doesn't mean that one must give up one's own belief, rather, that we give our Catholic understanding in a way that it is understood from other sides,” he said. “That's why we hope that the ecumenical process continues and that God gives us the grace that all Christians come united in one Church.” RE: Acceptance of Vatican II is Prerequisite for 'Acceptance' by Conciliar Clergy - Stone - 04-18-2021 Sadly, we know that since 2012 Bp. Fellay on behalf of the entire SSPX, accepted Vatican II, just as it was requested of him repeatedly by modernist Rome. An excerpt from The Recusant's Study on the Doctrinal Declaration: Quote:Paragraph III, 7. RE: Acceptance of Vatican II is Prerequisite for 'Acceptance' by Conciliar Clergy - Stone - 04-18-2021 Pope Francis Exhorts FSSP to the "Living Tradition" of Vatican II
Holy Father's message on the 25th anniversary of FSSP conveyed by Letter of the Apostolic Nuncio in France
CFN | 14/11/13
Apostolic Nunciature in France Paris, October 29, 2013 Reverend Father, I am pleased to convey to you, by this letter, the benediction that Pope Francis addresses to the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter on the occasion of the celebration of the 25th anniversary of her foundation. [Final formal greetings] + Luigi VENTURA Apostolic Nuncio Reverend Father Vincent RIBETON Superior of the District of France Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter [Address] _____________________________________________ Apostolic Nunciature in France On the occasion of the 25th anniversary of the foundation of the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter Pope Francis joins the thanksgiving of her members for the work accomplished in this quarter-century spent at the service of ecclesial communion cum Petro et sub Petro. It was in a moment of great trial for the Church that the Priestly Fraternity of Saint Peter was created. In a great spirit of obedience and hope, her founders turned with confidence to the Successor of Peter in order to offer the faithful attached to the Missal of 1962 the possibility of living their faith in the full communion of the Church. The Holy Father encourages them to pursue their mission of reconciliation between all the faithful, whichever may be their sensibility, and this to work so that all welcome one another in the profession of the same faith and the bond of an intense fraternal charity. By way of the celebration of the sacred Mysteries according to the extraordinary form of the Roman rite and the orientations of the Constitution on the Liturgy Sacrosanctum Concilium, as well as by passing on the apostolic faith as it is presented in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, may they contribute, in fidelity to the living Tradition of the Church, to a better comprehension and implementation of the Second Vatican Council. [Emphasis added] The Holy Father exhorts them, according to their own charism, to take an active part in the mission of the Church in the world of today, through the testimony of a holy life, a firm faith and an inventive and generous charity. Entrusting to the intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary and of Saint Peter, apostle, all the pilgrims assembled in Lourdes or at the church of Saint-Sulpice in Paris to give thanks to the Lord on this occasion, the Holy Father grants them with open heart the Apostolic Benediction. Paris, October 28, 2013 On the feast of Saints Simon and Jude, Apostles. + Luigi VENTURA Apostolic Nuncio |