Garabandal
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The following is a straight-forward article [republished on several websites] for your review and consideration. Adapted from here. Once again, the images below are not original to this article but were easily found with a simple internet search and provided to give documentary evidence of what occurred at Garabandal. The inclusion of this article is not a promotion of every word of commentary. It's value is the encapsulation and listing of the various 'issues' that lead many to conclude these 'visions' are not from Heaven and are mostly like the 'ape of Fatima.'
All emphasis mine.


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GARABANDAL
The Most Dangerous False Apparition in the World

From 1961 until 1965 four teenage girls saw visions of the Virgin Mary, the Christ Child, and angels. They received messages of the coming Chastisement, a coming Warning, and a future Miracle.

What is unique about this phenomenon is that almost all the games Satan plays were used with these girls. THIS WAS NOT A FRAUD. There is too much evidence of the other world here. It all started when the girls decided to steal some apples from the school teacher's tree. They were thrown to their knees by an invisible force. In this first apparition they saw an angel. [...]


SATANIC

Throughout the four years of the apparitions all the powers of Satan were used. The girls were taken into the air many times. One time one of the children was lifted over the top of a building. They were made to do ungodly movements of the body: taken swiftly above the ground, down the rocky hill hundreds of feet to meet "The Lady?". In every case the children were FORCED to their knees in a quick undignified manor. Many times they were forced with their heads backwards in a position that could not be done naturally.

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All of the children were heard to speak in LANGUAGES they did not know. On one occasion they prayed the "Our Father" in Greek. The girls were seen LIFTING each other up above their shoulders to kiss the lady. However, at other times, three grown men could not lift them.

Several times the girls were found SCREAMING. [Compare these to the calm though extremely serious actions and demeanor of the Three Children of Fatima after they were shown the most terrifying Vision of Hell. There was no screaming, no hysteria. - The Catacombs]

There were many "SIGNS IN THE SKY" seen by many people: moving stars, hosts, images, etc. In one case a fire was seen and the "Virgin" claimed that she had come in this FIRE.

In one very celebrated case the "angel" gave communion to Conchita and the host could be visibly seen by everyone. She was told to hold out her tongue until the "Virgin" came. She stayed with her tongue outstretched and the host on it for a long time. Many photographs were taken.

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LANGUAGE

In almost all the apparitions the girls entered into dialogues with the "Lady" about all kinds of NON-SENSE things, like how the Lady liked their clothes. The children were given the "Child Jesus" to pass around to each other like a TOY. Never once in the thousands of true apparitions we have studied did Christ or Mary ever say a SINGLE WORD that did not have a salvation meaning for the soul.

In the study of true and false apparitions, we have found that Mary and Christ have a particular personality, and so does Satan. Today we can just read the messages and sense the truth by the words. In Garabandal the word "punishment" is used instead of "Chastisement". There are over 400 private revelations about the chastisement, never is the word "punishment" used. The use of "there must be" instead of "My Son desires", or "you must be very good", since the Bible says "only God is good", would not be used my Mary. Think about "spread the message" instead of "do what your superior tells you." Only Satan uses the word "Pope". Our Lady always refers to him as "Holy Father" or "Vicar of Christ".

The "Virgin" said that we should turn the wrath of God away from us by our own efforts. This is in violation of the Doctrine of the Faith, since we are not capable of any good without God's graces. She also said that if we ask God for forgiveness with a sincere heart, he will pardon us. No mention of the obligation to then go to the Sacrament of Confession.


BLESSING

The "Virgin" asked that the girls not bring blessed sacramentals [rosaries, crucifixes, etc.], for she wanted to bless them herself. And over the years she is reported to have blessed and kisses hundreds of them. Remember that only blessed sacramentals affect Satan. Keep in mind, that Mary is not a priest. She cannot give a priestly blessing. Never in Her life or in any apparition for two thousand years has Mary given a priestly blessing to anything.

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ILLUSION

The children claim to have touched the "Virgin" many times, and of course, they passed Jesus around. However, they claim that they could not feel anything. Now, this is false except in the case of an illusion. God does not do illusions, He is real. His Mother is real. Mary and Christ have real human bodies. As St. Thomas in Acts actually touched Christ and as Christ actually ate with them, so too Catherine Laboure actually laid her head on Mary's lap and could feel Her.

After seeing the children actually passing something around, which was later said to be the Christ-child, the people asked if they actually touched Jesus.

"No, you cannot touch either the Blessed Mother or the Infant."

"But how can this be?" they asked.

"Well, you see what you hold, but you feel nothing; you feel no weight. If you stretch your hand to touch Our Lady, your hand can go no further because Our Lady is there, but you fell nothing."

Satan creates illusions, auto-suggestion creates illusions, a hypnotist creates illusions, but God creates the real thing.


PROPHESY

There are three prophesies in Garabandal: first a world-wide WARNING that everyone will see and feel; second, a MIRACLE at Garabandal that all will see and will remain there forever; and last, the PUNISHMENT. Twenty-five years later, nothing has happened.

But let us look at them. TheWarning is supposed to be seen and felt by everyone in the world so that we will know our sins and repent. That being the case we have no need to be watchful and keep our lamp burning, since God will warn us in time to repent. A priest, Father Lius Andreu, is reported to have seen a vision of the coming "miracle" but died without any known cause the next day. Conchita said that his body will be found incorrupt after the "Great Miracle". His body has since been exposed but he is not incorrupt.

This is the same trick Satan used in inventing "Rapture". The most important time in our life is "the moment of death". Satan wants us to think we have no reason to fear this moment; therefore, he invents things like the WARNING or the RAPTURE. The Holy Scripture tells us that Chastisements will come like a thief in the night when we least expect them. But if we have a miracle first, there is no need to be watchful.

Last, but not least, all chastisements are conditional. There is no condition in the punishment told of in the Garabandal prophesies.

There are other prophesies. The "Virgin" said that the pope and Padre Pio would see the miracle. Both are dead. She said that there would be only two more popes and that this would be the last one. Other prophecies make it clear that this is not the last one.

Conchita insists that this is the last pope. However, according to the list of St. Malachi, the next pope will be called the Glory of the Olives. Should we believe Conchita or a saint. In fact the last Holy Father will be named "Peter". Don Bosco prophesied that a Holy Father would die during a great chastisement and a new one would quickly replace him. That has not happened yet. There was also a miracle promised on October 18th of 1961. Nothing happened. And they were told this is the last warning to be given to the world. But since then hundreds of other apparitions around the world have been warning the world of everything under the sun.

[There is also the 'prophecy' that a blind man named Joey Lomangino will be cured of his blindness at the Miracle set to occur in Spain. Joey Lomangino passed away on June 18, 2014 without being ever cured of his blindness and obviously there was no Miracle that occurred before 2014.]


BISHOP

As we have stated many times, the only proof we need in any apparition is the decision of the local Bishop. He, and he alone, has the charisma of discernment in these matters. Not only did the Bishop in 1965 condemn Garabandal, but five bishops after him have condemned it.


LIES

In the past few years we have been to the Vatican and to San Giovanni Rotondo. It is claimed that the children went to Rome and received the Holy Fathers blessing on the miracles. It is also claimed that Padre Pio gave his approval to the messages of Garabandal. We can tell you [from our own visit to San Giovanni Rotondo and to Rome and from the above letter by Cardinal Seper] that these are both lies. To say "lie" is a strong word, but you can see that there was no foundation to the statement whatsoever. The Holy Father blessed the children without knowing who they were. Padre Pio did not approve of anything at Garabandal. This has been verified by Conchita.

Conchita and the rest of the children signed a document with the bishop agreeing with the findings of the Church and promised to never ever promote the apparitions again. These mystics have lived up to this signed document but the promoters have not. All the children retracted all belief in the miracles.


OBEDIENCE

The Bishop of Garabandal has refused permission for any outside priest to come to Garabandal and say Mass. In spite of this, hundreds are still going. Publication of material on Garabandal is forbidden. We still have monthly magazines promoting the messages. We have a privately distributed book called "The Warning," written by a priest. Newspapers and newsletters are sent everywhere. All of this was with Conchita's approval. Not anymore!

In the magazine, GARABANDAL, October-December 1987 Issue, it was claimed that the bishop of Garabandal, Joan Antonio Del Val Gallo, lifted the ban on priest visiting and celebrating mass in Garabandal. This also was not true. Bishop Gallo did make a suggestion to Rome that he might lift the ban on people coming to Garabandal because they were coming anyway, and this was causing them to sin. Rome replied that no change in the previous bishops rulings would be appropriate. The matter was dropped forever.

We know that the followers of Apparitions will not believe anything any bishop says, since they take their orders directly from God via the mystics. "I would rather believe in God than man." Of course, what they really mean without knowing it, is that they place their faith in the mystics instead of the Church. But this is not what Christ has said in Scripture and to true and approved seers. What the Church says, using Scripture as it’s guide, is that obedience is the first test of any miracle. (Romes 13:1) "Let everyone be subject to the higher authorities, FOR THERE EXISTS NO AUTHORITY EXCEPT FROM GOD. And those who exist have been appointed by God. Therefore he who RESISTS THE AUTHORITY RESISTS THE ORDINANCE OF GOD; AND THEY THAT RESIST BRING ON THEMSELVES CONDEMNATION."

Of course, this Gnostic generation of spiritualists will not believe the Church or the Bible, but maybe they will believe the approved mystics.

Listen to the words of Christ to Josefa Menendez: (Page 72, The Way of Divine Love, Tan Books and Publishers, Inc.)

Quote:‘Know for certain that if I ask you one thing and your Mother (Superior) asks another, I prefer you to obey her rather than Me."

And on Page 51, "I trust in you fidelity and obedience to Myself and to Reverend Mother, WHO REPRESENTS ME."

Page 99, "--- You must first submit to the will of your Superior, even before you do what I, Myself, ask you."

Taking Christ at His word, Josefa said this to Christ the next time He appeared to her. "If you are really He, whom I believe You to be, Lord, deign not to take offense if I am made to ask leave every time, before listening to You and following You."

Christ answered, "I am not offended, on the contrary, I want you always to obey, and I, Myself, will obey."

Mary, the Sword of discernment, taught Josefa how to know whether the apparition was of God or of Satan, because not only Christ and Mary were appearing to her, but Satan was also appearing as Christ or Mary, and Josefa could not tell the difference. (Page 87)

"My daughter, I will give you a lesson of VERY GREAT IMPORTANCE. The devil is like a mad dog, but he is chained, that is to say, his liberty is curtailed. He can, therefore, only seize and devour his prey if you venture to near him, and that is why his usual tactics are to make himself appear as a lamb. The soul does not realize this, and draws nearer and nearer, only to discover his malice when in his clutches. When he seems far away, do not relax your vigilance, child. His footsteps are padded and silent, that he may take you unawares."

(Page 98) "Pay no attention to the artifice of the devil, who tries to persuade you that the confidence you have in you Mother (superior) subtracts something from your tenderness for Jesus. If he is able to master you in this matter, he will have gained everything."

(Page 108) "Listen, Josefa, now is the time to SUBMIT YOUR JUDGMENT TO OBEDIENCE, and so you will be expiating the pride of that soul .

(Page 60) "My child, never be afraid of suffering or of sacrifice. Such are Gods ways. If you are to come out victoriously from the assaults of the devil, PAY GREAT ATTENTION TO TWO THINGS: First, HUMBLE YOURSELF, for you are nothing and deserve nothing. Everything comes to you as a grace from God. Second, when you feel lonely and given up to temptation, when your soul is cold and you have no courage to go on, do not give up prayer. Pray humbly and confidently, and GO AT ONCE TO SEEK GUIDANCE FROM HER WHO GOD HAS GIVEN YOU FOR THAT PURPOSE. BELIEVE ME, CHILD, IF YOU DO THIS, YOU WILL MAKE NO MISTAKES."

Satan appeared often to Josefa as Christ or Mary, she could not tell by looking or talking who it was, so she asked the vision to repeat after her the Divine Praises, and her vow of obedience and virginity, Jesus, Himself, His Immaculate Mother, and Saint Madeleine Sophie [who also appeared to her], all repeated after her.

(Page 129) "But the Devil with his polluted lips was never able to utter such words of praise and benediction, for he can no longer love. When unmasked thus, his furious violence was redoubled."

Compare the obedience of Josefa to the promoters of Garabandal.



PROMOTION

Do they have a right to promote Garabandal based on Pope Paul VI’s doing away with the Index? No!

Quote:The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith

November 1996

Regarding the circulation of texts of alleged private revelations, the Congregation states:

Quote:The Interpretation given by some individuals to a Decision approved by Paul VI on 14 October 1966 and promulgated on 15 November of that year, in virtue of which writings and messages resulting from alleged revelations could be freely circulated in the Church, is absolutely groundless. This decision actually referred to the "abolition of the Index of Forbidden Books" and determined that --- after the relevant censures were lifted --- the moral obligation still remained of not circulating or reading those writings which endanger faith and morals.

In should be recalled however that with regard to the circulation of texts of alleged private revelations, canon 623 #1 of the current Code remains in force: "the Pastors of the Church have the … right to demand that writings to be published by the Christian faithful which touch upon faith or morals be submitted to their judgement".

Alleged supernatural revelations and writings concerning them are submitted in first instance to the judgement of the diocesan Bishop, and , in particular cases, to the judgement of the Episcopal Conference and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

But they will say, "Look at the Fruits." The real fruits will be shown in the 20,000 people who flew to Garabandal for the Warning, but first let’s look at basic fruits.


FRUITS

Conchita entered a convent but received a message that she should not become a nun. She is now married to a much older man, who was married before and had children from a former wife or wives. Not one of her relatives went to her wedding. She is now living in the United States. She had a home in Garabandal which was a pilgrim stop but sold it and bought a condo here in Fatima where she stays several months a year. If the miracle is going to be in Garabandal, why is Conchita living in the United States? I have met and talked with her several times. She claims to have no memory of the apparitions but this could be just a way to obey the Bishop. If not, it is much more proof of the false.

One of the leading men of the messages of Fatima has become so involved in Garabandal he has left the Fatima Apostolate and promotes Garabandal full time. He has been successful in mixing the messages of Fatima with the Satanic messages of Garabandal, and thousands of Catholics have followed his example. Priests have died, out of communion with the Church, because of their disobedience to their superiors.

Garabandal is the an aping of Fatima. Attention has been drawn away from Fatima or all mixed up in the false messages of Garabandal. Satan has mimicked and exaggerated Fatima at Garabandal. Any priest or layman who promotes Garabandal publicly or privately is sinning against obedience and love. Any priest or layman, who does not openly support the local bishop in this matter, is sinning against love by his silence.

These are the fruits: disobedience to the bishop of Garabandal and to Rome; disrespect of authority; diffusion of Fatima; worship of Satan; promotion of Satan; and infidelity to the Doctrine of Christ.

As we told a leader of the movement for Garabandal [who told us to hold our decision in the matter until we see if there is a miracle]: "If there was a warning that the whole world saw and felt, and if there was a miracle that the whole world could see, we still would not believe in Garabandal, for Christ warned us of just such things."


THE 'WARNING' FLIGHT

The 101 Foundation - Queen Peace Flight to Moscow was brought about by "alleged" messages from certain mystics. These messages claimed that by bringing the Official Fatima Statue and the mystics (six) to Moscow, the great conversion would take place. It was besides the fact, that Lucia of Fatima said the Consecration was completed in 1984 and Mary would keep Her promise. The flight was a fiasco in many ways, even causing $20,000 damage to the greatest sacramental in the modern world. [We have a report on this flight that everyone should read and never forget.]

Apparently, they did not learn. Before this flight [101] was even off the ground, these same mystics were saying that the "Great Warning" of Garabandal would take place on Holy Thursday, April 13, 1995.

They packed many many airplanes at over $2000.00 per seat. In Garabandal there were between 15,000 and 20,000 people packed on the little mountain against the orders of the bishop. Over one hundred Spanish policeman were needed.

Fourteen days later, they published an apology.

"I wish to apologize to any and all for the inconvenience caused by an erroneous prediction of the great miracle on Holy Thursday, April 13, 1995."

People were screaming for their money back. There was no miracle, there were no accommodations, everything was a mess, almost as bad as Jim Jones. They assured people that they still had there money but they went on to say how many financial problems they had, and asked that they have mercy. They went on to say that Mary has asked us to perform acts of penance, and they quoted "Garabandal, San Damiano, Medjugorje, Akita, Venezuela, Rwanda,, and Father Gobbi."[All but Akita are false.

To justify there mistake they state,

"It becomes obvious , based on current apparitions, that all of us have been praying for the "new heaven and new earth" (Rev. 21:1). This Kingdom is for the faithful who survive tribulations and the chastisement (Rev. and seers). Note the scripture says "the new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of Heaven" Rev. 21:2) will replace the first earth that disappeared. A further revelation establishes "Here God lives among men. He will make His home among them. etc.". (Why this justified not giving back the money I do not know.)

We will answer the "New Heaven and New Earth" below, but regarding Revelation 21:2, the New Jerusalem coming down out of Heaven is Mary conceived in the mind of God before the world was created and adorned with all graces as the Bride of the Holy Spirit. [Revealed to Mary Agreda in City of God]. It is also the Catholic Church adorned with all graces as the Bride of Christ. Here (in the Catholic Church) God lives among men. Here (in the Catholic Church) we travel through the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth, then through the purifying door, then into the Holy of Holies where God will wipe away every tear. Once Baptized, we are in God’s Kingdom. It is the doctrine of our faith. And finally this earth will never "disappear" until Christ comes in the sky on the last day. He will not set His Foot on this earth. But in the twinkling of an eye He will send all those who have failed into Hell. Those left will rise up into the sky to meet Him. Then He will wipe away the earth with the wave of His Hand.

In there final plea they state: "Tribulation and the Chastisement are in our immediate future to eliminate all evil people which will leave God’s chosen people to inhabit the earth. It is only then that God’s love impregnates those remaining on this earth. Then the new heaven and new earth will be established.

Yes! There will be a "Chastisement". Over 110 true and approved mystics have said this for 1500 years. Even the Bible shows it. But it will not be only the bad that die, the prophets say the good and the bad will die. The true prophets say that 75% of the world will die. Those remaining will be converted for a time, about 40 years, but only for a time. Then will come the Antichrist.

There will not be a new heaven and a new earth. We received a New Heaven and a New Earth when Christ died on the Cross. It became a New Heaven because all the humans from Adam to Christ were let in. It became a New Earth because Christ would live amongst us in all the Tabernacles throughout the world until the end of time. And finally, God’s Love impregnates us now if we allow it.

But let us look at why we say "stupid" when referring to the promoters of Garabandal. They promoted 15-20,000 people to a remote mountain to see "The Warning", and yet, Conchita statement of June 19, 1965 was that, "The Warning that the Blessed Virgin will give us is like a chastisement." And on September 13, 1965, in an interview with Joey Lomangino and some other Americans, Conchita said,

"The Warning is a thing that comes directly form God. It will be visible all over the world, in whatever place anyone might be."

That being the case, why did those "stupid" promoters send thousands of people to Garabandal? Again on October 22, 1965, Conchita said, "The Warning will be very fearful, a thousand times worse than an earthquake." Why then go to an earthquake?

"All nations and all persons will experience it in the same way. No one will escape it. Even the non-believers … " Again we ask, why the trip to Garabandal?


CONCHITA

Conchita lives in the United States and in Fatima a few months a year. She is a very nice girl. She works with the Daughters of Charity. She has a family. If asked about the things that happened to her, she will say, "Yes, they happened." If you ask her if those things were from God or Demons, she will say, "The Church is the one who makes those decisions." Although she sometimes wonders, in general she does not believe Garabandal was from God. She does not promote anything to do with Garabandal. Why do you think she was not invited on the flight to Garabandal? If there was going to be a "Great Warning", why didn’t she go, taking her family? In fact, she was not even invited, because the promoters know she does not believe.

She obeys the Church, the Bishops, and the Holy See. Why is it that the rest of those uncautious, (and we are sorry) stupid people do not do the same as the seer who all these things happened to. Yes, they did happen. No, it was not from God. No, there will not be a "Warning". Yes, there will be a Chastisement where 75% of the world will die. No, there will not be a warning in the hearts of every person on earth. It will come as a thief in the night, have your lamps ready with the oil of grace at all times, and then you will have nothing to worry about. "The Day of the Lord" is "the moment of death" for each and every person, no matter how it happens, naturally, by accident, at the Chastisement, during the Antichrist, or at the end of the world. It’s all the same. It does not matter how, if you are ready to meet Your Lord.

But God does not take it lightly when you disobey His Church, for the Church, not you, is the pillar and the foundation of the truth. (1 Tim. 3:15). The Church is the final arbitrator. (Matt. 18:17) "And if he will not hear the Church, let him be to thee as the heathen and publican. Amen I say to you, whatsoever you shall bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven."

It has been pointed out as well that another proof that these visions of Garabandal are not from Heaven is the great emphasis on the physical impacts of the Warning, the Chastisement, the Miracle. But all the while, there is a 'blackout' on the real spiritual Chastisement:  the destruction caused by Vatican II, which ironically began at the same time as these visions. It is my understanding that all four seers of Garabandal have remained in the Conciliar Church, another 'fruit' of these visions?
"So let us be confident, let us not be unprepared, let us not be outflanked, let us be wise, vigilant, fighting against those who are trying to tear the faith out of our souls and morality out of our hearts, so that we may remain Catholics, remain united to the Blessed Virgin Mary, remain united to the Roman Catholic Church, remain faithful children of the Church."- Abp. Lefebvre
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